Top Ten Reasons Why the Kindle Won’t Be an iPod for Books

A lit­tle side­bar to our pre­vi­ous post that won­ders whether Ama­zon’s Kin­dle can rev­o­lu­tion­ize the book indus­try

1) When you buy an iPod, you can trans­fer all of your cur­rent music onto it. With Kin­dle you have to start buy­ing all new books.

2) The paper-form book (aka “dead tree ver­sion”) is still the best tech­nol­o­gy for read­ing: ful­ly portable, a nice thing to own and put on shelves, great for shar­ing, good in bed, at beach, etc. If you lose it or get it wet, no big deal—easily replace­able.

3) Music has con­stant­ly found new for­mats that improve on the old. Same for the iPod. It’s unques­tion­ably bet­ter than that big­ger, skip­ping CD play­er. Books haven’t been able to improve on the form for cen­turies.

4) Hold­ing 100 albums in your hand is great. Hold­ing 100 books? Not as much.

5) How often do you real­ly go away for so long that you need 10+ books? (Book­stores are every­where.)

6) Kin­dle is too expen­sive (see #1) and too big.

7) Books take much longer to con­sume, don’t work well in indi­vid­ual (shuf­fled) parts, and we often only read them once.

8.) Now that you can car­ry music on your phone, and the iPhone has bun­dled music, email, inter­net, and tele­phone in one small size, is any­one real­ly will­ing to buy a big­ger iPhone or Kin­dle just to read books on it?

9) Most of us spend more time lis­ten­ing to music than read­ing. We just do; it’s eas­i­er to do while we’re involved with oth­er things.

10) Books: they’re bet­ter!

Seth Har­wood pod­casts his ideas on the pub­lish­ing indus­try and his fic­tion for free at sethharwood.com. He is cur­rent­ly fig­ur­ing out how pub­lish­ers should best approach the new, emerg­ing e‑book mar­ket. Hear his ideas in his lat­est Hot Tub Cast™ and read them here soon. His first nov­el is JACK WAKES UP, in stores now.


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  • lou says:

    I agree, the Kin­dle won’t be the iPod for books. But there is a need for one. I’m a book nut and can’t stand not hav­ing some­thing to read. I have to give it some thought and effort to make sure I have enough read­ing mate­ri­als on week long trips.
    I know train and bus com­muters who read 100 books / year. They have to sched­ule time to go to the library or used book store. They would love to down­load an ebook from the library.
    When i go out for the day i take my glass­es, iPod, phone, and a book. I need a lit­tle bag for all the stuff. It would be great if all that stuff could be com­bined.
    I know i could get an iPhone but I can’t afford the ser­vice plan.
    I’m look­ing for­ward to an iPod, cell phone, e‑reader com­bo with a blue­tooth head­set built into pho­to-gray glass­es.
    I think some­one already said it but the big mar­ket for e‑books is col­lege text­books. I think it’s got to hap­pen there first and then migrate to high schools. Once you already have a read­er you’re more like­ly to buy a e‑book.

  • Seth Harwood says:

    You make good points. One of the things I thought the Fast Com­pa­ny arti­cle said very well was how much it makes sense to bun­dle e‑books with every­thing else, more than to have a sep­a­rate piece of hard­ware for it.If that means that Apple’s going to be the one to bring e‑books into major use, then so be it.

    My cur­rent think­ing is to fig­ure out how the pub­lish­ing indus­try can get ahead of this move­ment to take books into e‑books on their own terms.
    I don’t think they’ll get “nap­stered” (see this arti­cle) but some­thing’s got to give!

  • Kurt Roithinger says:

    though i’m bound to regret this exer­cise, let me respond to each point raised:

    > 1) When you buy an iPod, you can trans­fer all of your cur­rent music onto it. With Kin­dle you have to start buy­ing all new books.

    cer­tain­ly some truth to that. how­ev­er, this sort of thing is the case for ANY ebook read­er, not just the kin­dle.

    > 2) The paper-form book (aka “dead tree ver­sion”) is still the best tech­nol­o­gy for read­ing: ful­ly portable, a nice thing to own and put on shelves, great for shar­ing, good in bed, at beach, etc. If you lose it or get it wet, no big deal—easily replace­able.

    well, ok, i was stunned by this. main­ly, because it’s so damned sil­ly, i real­ly had to won­der if this whole list was­n’t just a joke.

    ful­ly portable? car­ry around even the abridged OED much late­ly?
    nice thing to put on shelves? sure. until you real­ize that the major­i­ty of your liv­ing space is noth­ing but book and CD/DVD shelves. at that point, not so much.
    good in bed? truth­ful­ly i find read­ing with the kin­dle in bed to be far bet­ter than most any dead tree edi­tions. no prob­lems with larg­er books, no issues with acci­den­tal­ly los­ing you place.

    los­ing it or get­ting it wet? total straw­man. if i get some of my exist­ing hard­copy books wet, it’d be some­thing akin to a tragedy to me. if i lost or broke my kin­dle, i’d have it replaced (yay! insur­ance!) and re-down­lod­ed and that’d be that.

    > 3) Music has con­stant­ly found new for­mats that improve on the old. Same for the iPod. It’s unques­tion­ably bet­ter than that big­ger, skip­ping CD play­er. Books haven’t been able to improve on the form for cen­turies.

    you live in a soci­ety where some peo­ple still think 33.3 LPs are the pin­na­cle of sound. the inter­net has been awash with argu­ments pro and con about the shapes, forms and sizes of dig­i­tal media for years. ‘unques­tion­ably’ isn’t a term i would even remote­ly asso­ciate with this sort of thing. in fact, there are PLENTY of ques­tions in regards to them improv­ing upon fideli­ty of sound. thus your argu­ment is reduced to how much more portable and easy to to store and manip­u­late dig­i­tal audio media is. i would assert that the same could be said for ebooks vs. dead tree edi­tions, but that is some­thing you seem to poo-poo above. go fig­ure!

    > 4) Hold­ing 100 albums in your hand is great. Hold­ing 100 books? Not as much.

    which, of course, is in fact an argu­ment in favor of a e‑book read­er like the kin­dle.

    > 5) How often do you real­ly go away for so long that you need 10+ books? (Book­stores are every­where.)

    book­store­as can be any­where. good book stores that car­ry a sec­tion that caters to the stuff you would most like to read — not so much. btw, 10+ books in a week or so? not ter­ri­bly uncom­mon for me.

    > 6) Kin­dle is too expen­sive (see #1) and too big.

    can’t real­ly argue the price much. i real­ly think ama­zon should con­sid­er a non-whis­per­net edi­tion for like $99 that does­n’t have the wire­less fea­ture (which is what the big upfront price is most like­ly pay­ing for) and just uses your PC to trans­fer books on and off.

    too big? seri­ous­ly, have you even both­ered to use one at all? it’s small­er and lighter than most paper­backs pub­lished these days. if you wan­na drag the DX into all this, fine. but to me, that’s real­ly a device for a whole dif­fer­ent mar­ket mind­set.

    > 7) Books take much longer to con­sume, don’t work well in indi­vid­ual (shuf­fled) parts, and we often only read them once.

    ok, so if we only read them once, what’s the point of buy­ing and keep­ing books and putting them on our book­shelves (see #2)? so we can point to them and say ‘yeah, i read that’? ugh. plen­ty of peo­ple out there re-read stuff all the time, so real­ly, this is a non-starter.

    do books take longer to con­sume? for the most part, i’d agree. some albums have required me to lis­ten through them mul­ti­ple times just to sort of get at the core of my like or dis­like for them, but that’s besides the point. books tend to be a bit more cumu­la­tive — after a while you’ll either press on or stop. that said, the lack of a shuf­fle play for books is a bit baf­fling. i know plen­ty of peo­ple who enjoy read­ing 4–5 books con­cur­rent­ly, based on mood and what­not (i’m not one of them), but you know what else does­n’t work well with shuf­fle play? video con­tent and games.

    shuf­fle play real­ly is some­thing that works best on a music play­er, first and fore­most (imo) and thus not some­thing you can real­ly ding any oth­er media with.

    > 8.) Now that you can car­ry music on your phone, and the iPhone has bun­dled music, email, inter­net, and tele­phone in one small size, is any­one real­ly will­ing to buy a big­ger iPhone or Kin­dle just to read books on it?

    this, imo, is a very good point.

    i’d argue there are some oth­er fac­tors at work here (f.e. i can’t read on back­lit screens for any giv­en long peri­od — which made read­ing ebooks on my win­mo PDAs damn hard — no such prob­lem with epa­per, though), but ama­zon does make a kin­dle app for the iphone. if that winds up being the way to go — well, so be it. per­son­al­ly, i’m not ter­ri­bly big on putting all my eggs in one sin­gle bas­ket, but that’s just me.

    > 9) Most of us spend more time lis­ten­ing to music than read­ing. We just do; it’s eas­i­er to do while we’re involved with oth­er things.

    true! how­ev­er, i’d argue that on the whole, we tend to read an awful lot each and every day (i had to read this arti­cle, f.e.!) and thus, for those who *DO* read in prodi­gious quan­ti­ties, a ded­i­cat­ed device to make that whole process a smidgen eas­i­er might have a place.

    after all, we prob­a­bly lis­ten to music more than we watch TV, and yet some­how VCRs and DVRs did­n’t go the way of the dodo either.

    > 10) Books: they’re bet­ter!

    bet­ter than what, exact­ly? every book on my kin­dle is just that — a book. a book, whether it’s made of paper or elec­trons, in it’s core nature still is the same thing: a con­tain­er source for infor­ma­tion so that said infor­ma­tion be able to be trans­ferred from one indi­vid­ual to anoth­er in a high­ly accu­rate for­mat. hard­copy or e‑copy does­n’t real­ly make much of a diff in all that and so stat­ing that one for­mat might be bet­ter than the oth­er is just sub­jec­tive. both get the job done, peri­od.

  • Linda says:

    I bought Kin­dle v2 last month to help with the read­ing asso­ci­at­ed with my stud­ies. It is excel­lent. I use third-par­ty soft­ware to con­vert my library of PDFs to Kindle’s for­mat. Cur­rent­ly it holds about 10 aca­d­e­m­ic-lev­el books that I am read­ing. I can make nota­tions and save blocks of text into RTF files. As I live out­side of the US, the Kindle’s down­load agree­ment with Ama­zon is irrel­e­vant. I like the Kin­dle much more than I expect­ed. I spent much time com­par­ing oth­er e‑book read­ers (Sony, BeBook, Illi­ad, etc) and am pleased with the Kin­dle. It’s new price (US$300) also makes it one of the low­est cost e‑readers on the mar­ket. Just my two cents worth.…

  • Mike says:

    Seth,
    I agree whole-heart­ed­ly with your sen­ti­ments. I just wish it were all true! Even if the Kin­dle does­n’t take off the way the iPod did, elec­tron­ic books will soon cause seri­ous dam­age to the tra­di­tion­al book lover’s infra­struc­ture — inde­pen­dent book­stores and even large chain book­stores — so that even­tu­al­ly, as with news­pa­pers, it will all col­lapse. Anoth­er thing that real­ly wor­ries me: As “teth­ered media,” elec­tron­ic books are only licensed for use, and not pur­chased, so they can be delet­ed or redact­ed by the license provider — or some oth­er author­i­ty. Sure, book­shelves take up space, but at least our old libraries can’t be remote­ly zapped out of exis­tence! 1984 indeed.

  • Kurt Roithinger says:

    woe is me! ebooks are teth­ered media and all these evil cor­po­ra­tions will some­day pull all our media and five sec­onds lat­er, the sky will indeed be falling.

    alas, my tin­foil hat is in the shop this week, so sad­ly, i’m not buy­ing into this whole con­cept much.

    the first sug­ges­tion in these mat­ters would be to revis­it the wild west era of dig­i­tal audio media — where DRM for­mats were just trip­ping over them­selves try­ing to estab­lish suprema­cy that would install them as a sort of per­ma­nent mar­ket leader.

    the whole notion of DRM’d media was enough to entice some of the big music labels to sign on with places like itunes and before long, the medi­um achieved crit­i­cal mass. woohoo, etc.

    at no time along this route did the pub­lic *EVER* get ter­ri­bly fond of DRM’d media and thus, when ama­zon kin­da got it’s own crit­i­cal mass with it’s non-DRM mp3 store, the writ­ing was on the wall, plain for all to see. the only DRM schemes that have been able to sor­ta hang around at this point are the rental schemes (like the zune pass, f.e.)

    does any­one SERIOUSLY think it’ll be any dif­fer­ent with books?

    even­tu­al­ly, a crit­i­cal mass will form (whether it is from with­in the apple or ama­zon camps mat­ters lit­tle — though i would­n’t be at all sur­prised if they don’t wind up col­lab­o­rat­ing on this one rather than com­pete) and once it does, the pub­lic desire for non-DRM will grad­u­al­ly take over and dis­place the var­i­ous schemes in effect now. if this sort of stage does­n’t come to pass, then the whole ebook issue is kin­da moot, because it’ll for­ev­er lan­guish in medi­oc­rity.

    so, is teth­ered media some­thing we all should wor­ry about? not real­ly. we’re sim­ply look­ing at a con­tent deliv­ery plat­form in its infan­cy and as such, it has issues that need to be worked out and an evo­lu­tion­ary path that we ought to expect it to take towards even­tu­al­ly achiev­ing broad­er accep­tance.

    the whole ker­fluffle over ama­zon remov­ing the ille­gal­ly sold copies of ‘1984’ to me were more about the poor com­mu­ni­ca­tion dis­played and assess­ments made. there were plen­ty of bet­ter ways that they could have han­dled this — but they did­n’t. i hope they learn from this when the next issue comes along. of course, we could just sim­ply stick to this mantra of ‘all cor­po­ra­tions are evil and real­ly want to do noth­ing more than screw their cus­tomers’ and fear­mon­ger the issue into infin­i­ty.

    bot­tom line, teth­er­ing and oth­er DRM issues are sim­ply tran­si­to­ry states that exist now but prob­a­bly won’t exist for­ev­er. best we all can do is work hard on mak­ing sure that the next state is achieved soon­er rather than lat­er.

    a note on the changes in infra­struc­ture faced by a bib­lio­phile…

    there is one area where the book indus­try is kin­da head­ing towards a sort of e‑book armaged­don — and it isn’t in the book retail­ing sec­tor. imo, the field of pub­lish­ing is in for a pret­ty hefty set of changes if ebooks take off. with the cost of pub­lish­ing effec­tive­ly being dom­i­nat­ed by the cost of print and the cost of pro­mo­tion, build­ing a con­tent plat­form that elim­i­nates one and changes the focus of the oth­er can only be a big thing in the long run. now, one might argue that print­ing is only one part of cre­at­ing a phys­i­cal copy of a book — and tis is very true. but it is equal­ly true that the tools nec­es­sary to for­mat an ebook are pret­ty ridicu­lous­ly easy to get and use these days. cre­at­ing a nice­ly for­mat­ed e‑book in some instances can be done from with­in a sim­ple word proces­sor (word, open office…dunno about google docs, but would­n’t sur­prise me.)

    pro­mo­tion would becomes the respon­si­bil­i­ty of the author and usu­al­ly is done by grow­ing a com­mu­ni­ty fo fans. in this regard, things could be very sim­i­lar to how musi­cal artists broke away from major labels and start­ed self pro­mot­ing and self-pub­lish­ing and sud­den­ly start­ed mak­ing more mon­ey than ever before. there real­ly is some­thing to be said for being in total con­trol of your cre­ative endeav­ors.

    how­ev­er, one ser­vice most pub­lish­ers pro­vide that (again, imo) will be hard to replace or repli­cate, is that of a good edi­tor. now, not every pub­lish­er has an abun­dance of these indi­vid­u­als, but when you do find a good one, they can work mag­ic (con­verse­ly, a bad one can pret­ty much ruin you.) it would­n’t sur­prise me if before long peo­ple set them­selves up as free­lance edi­tors who will gram­mar or struc­ture con­sult on a man­u­script with you via the inter­net for sen­si­ble rates. who knows, maybe such things exist already (i’m kin­da snob­bish­ly dis­count­ing edit­ing-by-com­mit­tee in a wiki-like set­ting — i just nev­er had much faith in edit­ing by com­mit­tee. if it works for oth­ers, though — fan­tas­tic.)

    but again, pub­lish­ing is the one area where the infra­struc­ture stands to change the most if ebooks ever take off and pro­lif­er­ate. we could see authors mak­ing deals to just pub­lish their man­u­scripts direct­ly to an ebook plat­form and we could also see an influx of peo­ple who oth­er­wise would nev­er have been pub­lished via con­ven­tion­al means but who grew their fan base organ­i­cal­ly and then just release an ebook to take things to the next lev­el. all these sce­nar­ios should cause a pret­ty siz­able upheaval in the book pub­lish­ing world. retail­ing imo pret­ty much already went through its blood­bath phase with the emer­gence of dis­count inter­net retail­ers, which pret­ty much undermined/killed the effec­tive­ness of the small­er chain book stores. larg­er brick & mor­tar stores will prob­a­bly keep on keep­ing on for a gen­er­a­tion or two, but real­is­ti­cal­ly, their fate is kin­da sealed now, whether ebooks ever take off or not.

    local used book stores (imo) have bet­ter long term prospects and will prob­a­bly be around long after most of us are dead and buried. after all, used record stores might have con­sol­i­dat­ed some of the last two decades, but they still exist for the most part.

  • John Connell says:

    I sus­pect you’re right about the Kin­dle, specif­i­cal­ly, but you are almost cer­tain­ly wrong about a killer e‑book read­er that is sure­ly just around the cor­ner. It will be open, non-pro­pri­etary, easy to use, easy to car­ry, and cheap (ok, maybe the last will take time).

    Most of your rea­sons sim­ply don’t stack up, I’m afraid. For instance (#4 & #5) — I would love to be able to car­ry hun­dreds of books with me on hol­i­day, when I’m work­ing, when­ev­er, wher­ev­er. Why? Because I rarely read a book from cov­er to cov­er (I read few nov­els and lots of non-fic­tion) and I like to dip into my books (I have thou­sands of the things at home) for ideas, for ref­er­ence, to sup­port my own think­ing etc.

    Most of the remain­der of your rea­sons are equal­ly unin­spir­ing, I’m afraid.

  • Mike says:

    I’m sor­ry, Kurt. My tin foil hat was secure­ly fas­tened but appar­ent­ly I had wan­dered off with­out tak­ing my med­ica­tion. I’m glad you’re so fear­less. Per­haps the “ker­fluffle” over Ama­zon’s remote dele­tion of books was, as you say, “more about the poor com­mu­ni­ca­tion dis­played and assess­ments made.” Like the ker­fluffle in Iran, where the gov­ern­ment blocked access to the inter­net. Poor com­mu­ni­ca­tion indeed. Or in Chi­na, where they have been selec­tive­ly block­ing web­sites for years. Your fear­less­ness inspires me, Kurt. Any­way, why NOT delete Noam Chom­sky? That annoy­ing bas­tard.

  • Seth Harwood says:

    Wow! Some great com­ments here, all around!
    Yes, there’s def­i­nite­ly some tongue-in-cheek aspect to this list so if some of you found humor in it, then good.
    Oth­er­wise, I find it real­ly inter­est­ing to see these com­ments and defense(s) of the Kin­dle. It helps me see the big­ger pic­ture in pub­lish­ing to hear from those of you who’ve come to love your kin­dle. Inter­est­ing.

    I do won­der whose opin­ions define the pop­u­lar feel­ing, though. To be sure, even the Apple New­ton must’ve had some devo­tees, but the ques­tion I mean to ask here is whether the Kin­dle will ever have the full reach of the iPod adn there­fore enough to real­ly change the face of the pub­lish­ing indus­try and be able to set prices for e‑books.

    I should admit that iPod reach or not, I think the day is com­ing for the Kindle/e‑books and the pub­lish­ing indus­try needs to accept it. Time to start mak­ing plans for how to work with that real­i­ty instead of putting it off and hop­ing it does­n’t come.

    I still think the “Nap­stered” arti­cle from Slate last month (http://www.slate.com/id/2222941/) is extreme­ly rel­e­vant, and the pric­ing stance that pub­lish­ers have adopt­ed (price-points need to stay at $15/$25 for ebooks) can’t last. The ques­tion becomes, “How will they han­dle it? Will they be proac­tive, or let things be done TO THEM like the music indus­try did?”

    Last thing: if we can debate that LPs are still bet­ter than MP3s, we can debate/argue ANYTHING! Let’s face facts: MP3s are now the dom­i­nant for­mat. If paper-print books go the way of the LP, that will be a huge defeat for the pub­lish­ing indus­try.

  • Kurt Roithinger says:

    > I do won­der whose opin­ions define the pop­u­lar feel­ing, though. To be sure, even the Apple New­ton must’ve had some devo­tees, but the ques­tion I mean to ask here is whether the Kin­dle will ever have the full reach of the iPod adn there­fore enough to real­ly change the face of the pub­lish­ing indus­try and be able to set prices for e‑books. I should admit that iPod reach or not, I think the day is com­ing for the Kindle/e‑books and the pub­lish­ing indus­try needs to accept it. Time to start mak­ing plans for how to work with that real­i­ty instead of putting it off and hop­ing it doesn’t come. I still think the “Nap­stered” arti­cle from Slate last month (http://www.slate.com/id/2222941/) is extreme­ly rel­e­vant, and the pric­ing stance that pub­lish­ers have adopt­ed (price-points need to stay at $15/$25 for ebooks) can’t last. The ques­tion becomes, “How will they han­dle it? Will they be proac­tive, or let things be done TO THEM like the music indus­try did?” Last thing: if we can debate that LPs are still bet­ter than MP3s, we can debate/argue ANYTHING! Let’s face facts: MP3s are now the dom­i­nant for­mat. If paper-print books go the way of the LP, that will be a huge defeat for the pub­lish­ing indus­try. <

    tape was once the dom­i­nant for­mat in that seg­ment. if print­ed books go the way of tape — THAT would be scary.

    as i not­ed before, i think print­ed books are pret­ty much on their way out and change in the pub­lish­ing indus­try is sor­ta inevitable at this point. the ques­tion is how long and when it’ll all be ful­ly real­ized.

    that said, i kin­da doubt print­ed books will ever ful­ly go away — they sim­ply will morph into a dif­fer­ent mar­ket space from what they have now.

  • Allison Williams says:

    For all the rea­sons you men­tion, I love the iTouch for read­ing: light­weight, pock­et-sized, no month­ly fee (only need wifi to down­load, then you’re inde­pen­dent.) Screen is back­lit, page turn­ing is smooth and with­out dis­trac­tion. I cur­rent­ly am read­ing 4 dif­fer­ent books from the iTouch, depend­ing on my mood. Just the way I have dif­fer­ent print books going for dif­fer­ent rea­sons. I have down­loaded free books but I’m also will­ing to pay. Some­one gave me a good tip that often the price of a new e‑book drops on Ama­zon as it becomes more pop­u­lar so I have rarely paid more than $9.99.

  • Alex Levy says:

    These are fair­ly flim­sy “rea­sons.” Why would you want anoth­er copy of a book you already own? Obvi­ous­ly, you haven’t checked out the Kin­dle 2, which is con­sid­er­ably small­er than most books. While you can read a book almost any­where, try read­ing one in the sun. A def­i­nite nui­sance, and again, I much pre­fer the Kin­dle with it black type on grey back­ground. And so on and so on… None of this should be inter­pret­ed as an I‑pod put down. But try find­ing your page after you’ve recharged the device. The Kin­dle def­i­nite­ly has its place, as does the I‑pod, and as does the book. To match one against the oth­er is a sil­ly waste of time.
    Alex

  • Carol A says:

    I have to say I agree with Kurt — and I am old enough to remem­ber all these argu­ments about vinyl record and CD’s. Not too many shops sell­ing these around are there? And main­ly the “classy” end of the music record­ing indus­try, clas­si­cal and jazz. Of course there will always be a mar­ket for attrac­tive books, but for aca­d­e­m­ic read­ing an e‑book read­er is the way to go. Try lug­ging around 10 text­books and you will also be an ebook read­er fan!
    I also like to read a selec­tion of books, often read­ing 4 or more at once. I just can’t wait to get my hands on an ebook read­er, but not a tied in one like a Kin­dle. Bebook read­er or sim­i­lar sounds bet­ter to me.

  • Hanoch says:

    Mr. Har­wood is absolute­ly cor­rect. There is vir­tu­al­ly no prac­ti­cal pur­pose for the Kin­dle.

    A book is just as con­ve­nient to car­ry and gen­er­al­ly can be obtained for less mon­ey (or free from the library). Fur­ther­more, the Kin­dle has an extreme­ly lim­it­ed selec­tion of books, which is a major draw­back. If it is impor­tant to have a book avail­able in elec­tron­ic form for a train ride, wait­ing on line, etc. an iphone or black­ber­ry fits the bill with­out hav­ing to car­ry mul­ti­ple devices and dol­ing out an addi­tion­al $300 for the priv­i­lege.

    The Kin­dle is noth­ing more than a device for gad­get-lovers. There is noth­ing wrong with that; just don’t attempt to sug­gest it has any sig­nif­i­cant prac­ti­cal pur­pose.

  • rose says:

    even the name kin­dle evokes images of books burn­ing in the wake of the new technology…not going to hap­pen. there’s an inter­est­ing sto­ry about e‑reader names over here:

    http://onthebutton.wordpress.com/2009/08/13/books-are-so-yesterday/

  • alex says:

    rea­son #11, the name “kin­dle” is ter­ri­ble. there’s a good post about the name of elec­tron­ic read­ers here: http://onthebutton.wordpress.com/2009/08/13/books-are-so-yesterday/

  • Nis Baggesen says:

    Per­son­al­ly I’m very hap­py with my iRex iLi­ad eBook read­er.

    It is as nice to read on as a reg­u­lar book, and much prefer­able to back­lit screens. I tried Stan­za for my iPhone, and while it is cer­tain­ly a nice piece of soft­ware, I found the screen much too small and uncom­fort­able to read on.

    Also since it can be oper­at­ed with one hand I find it more prac­ti­cal in a lot of ways, such as read­ing in bed (yes, that includes any dirty ideas you might get).

    Porta­bil­i­ty of books mat­ter to me, because I’m usu­al­ly in the process of read­ing 5 to 10 books at any giv­en time. I nev­er know what I’ll be in the mood for read­ing next time, so it is nice to have a selec­tion.

    It is true that I can’t con­vert my entire library of reg­u­lar paper books (which I still like, and I still pur­chase new ones as well) eas­i­ly to an eletron­ic for­mat, and that is a shame. On the oth­er hand I know have a com­fort­able plat­form for all the great works that can be accessed via The Guten­berg Project, so sud­den­ly I’ve actu­al­ly start­ed read­ing the clas­sics. And sim­i­lar­ly var­i­ous pdfs I find — such as sci­en­tif­ic arti­cles — have a greater chance of being read, and I waste less paper print­ing stuff out. As for remote dele­tion, that is not an issue for me, since I don’t use teth­ered for­mats — all the ebooks I buy is stuff I get to down­load and man­age myself.

    Too me the only major down­side of ebooks, is that since I’m the only one I know who owns an ebook read­er, I can’t eas­iliy share books (of course some would be DRM’ed so I could­n’t do that any­way, but still).

  • w hostman says:

    Rea­son 1: Bogus. Well, actu­al­ly, for a kin­dle oth­er than the DX, I’d have to refor­mat all my ebooks.

    For my sony, how­ev­er, I CAN scan them, save as PDF’s, and read the scans. I haven’t. But I could.

    Rea­son 2 & 3: bogus. Paper is read­i­ly destroyed by age, bugs, damp, mold, mildew, care­less chil­dren, etc. But new inno­va­tions (col­or off­set print­ing, for exam­ple) have improved books dras­ti­cal­ly in the last 100 years… and the ebook is a new step.
    I don’t have a kin­dle. I have a sony PRS505. I find it to be far supe­ri­or fr actu­al read­ing than a book, except when I for­get to charge it up. And a new gen­er­a­tion could have thin-film solar pan­els on the back, and ren­der that, too, a non-issue!

    Rea­son 4: I car­ry about 250 books around in my PRS500. I car­ry no more than 5 dead tree books around. I put the pew­book for church on my PRS 500… along with oth­er things that I may use, but don’t want to waste paper on a sin­gle use of.

    Rea­son 5: Irrel­e­vant. I buy most books at home, or at a par­tic­u­lar game store. When I ran a D&D game, I had my ebooks from my copy of the Etools CD on my ebook read­er. AD&D 2E had 20 books I was ref­er­enc­ing that way.

    Rea­son 6: Bogus. The screen is too damned SMALL, not too big. I want a full 8x10.5″ screen, or at least 7.5x10”, so I can more eas­i­ly read the 8.5x11” PDFs I’ve got. And can put the 5x8” PDF’s up 2pages at a time.

    Rea­son 7: Most books I’ve bought get read mul­ti­ple times. If not, they were no good. I’ve got about 170 gam­ing books, most of which I’ve read mul­ti­ple times, on my Sony.

    Rea­son 8: I don’t want my Ebook read­er to be my cell­phone, nor vice ver­sa; com­fort forms are very dif­fer­ent. And I want a BIGGER read­er.

    Rea­son 9: The first one to be actu­al­ly true.

    Rea­son 10: wrong. I’m about to upgrade to a PRS600 read­er, for the search fea­tures and anno­ta­tions. When Sony even­tu­al­ly releas­es a full-sheet (LTR/A4) read­er, I’ll go for that, too. As in, an addi­tion, not a replace­ment, for the 600.

    So.….

    Why the kin­dle isnt’ the new iPod? Price, DRM, fragili­ty, and form fac­tor.

    That key­board is why I did­n’t like it; I’d rather have more screen space and a plug in mem­brane key­board on the cov­er. (time to sug­gest that to Sony…)

    The eInk dis­play is great; Sony made theirs rugged, ama­zon did­n’t.

    Price: Sony came in under. Not by much. But give it a cou­ple years, and prices should drop.

    DRM: It sucks. Espe­cial­ly with Sony and Ama­zon’s pro­pri­etary for­mats. But Sony real­ized this and shipped with sup­port for sev­er­al non-DRM for­mats on board… includ­ing ren­der­ing PDF rather than just trans­lat­ing it to a pro­pri­etary text-only for­mat.

    My Sony, BTW, reads (native­ly) BBeB (Sony pro­pri­etary), MobyPock­et, RTF, PDF, TXT. A 3rd par­ty con­vert­er will make non-DRM BBeB from HTML and RSS, and also from RTF, Text, and PDF, if I choose to go that route. Plus, by use of Adobe soft­ware, I can autho­rize for most forms of DRM PDF for native ren­der­ing on the sony.

    We just need both a larg­er machine and a col­or machine, and prefer­ably a price drop, to make things go POP!

    BTW, Baen sells their nov­els for $4-$7 in ebook for­mats, no DRM, and gives per­mis­sion to share with imme­di­ate fam­i­ly. For­tu­nate­ly, one of my favorite authors is in their sta­ble: Bujold. Niv­en, too, but not the ones I want.

  • blah blah black sheep says:

    Much like how the PDA went the way of the Dodo once iPhones became per­son­al orga­niz­ers, Kin­dles are too over­ly spe­cial­ized as well. While we have audio jacks and head­phones for an iPhone, all we’re miss­ing is a visu­al jack & eas­i­ly rol­lable & trans­portable screen … some­thing that can roll out to an 8x11 piece of paper and plug into the iPhone (or what­ev­er mul­ti-media device you use), to let you see what’s on the screen in a big­ger for­mat. They’re work­ing on flex­i­ble OLED’s and such. It won’t be long before some­thing like this comes out and makes the Kin­dle obso­lete. All we’re real­ly doing is find­ing ways to make it more effi­cient to get infor­ma­tion from a device into our sen­so­ry organs. The Kin­dle pro­vides a large screen, but if the iPhone had an acces­so­ry that could do like­wise, the Kin­dle would go away. While peo­ple first want­ed spe­cial­ized devices (mp3 play­er, phone, pda), we’ve moved on to hav­ing a gener­ic, portable device that can do all of that (iPhone, Black­ber­ry, Pre, etc). All they’re miss­ing is an easy way to increase screen size. Once an acce­so­ry comes out to eas­i­ly do that, then the iPhone will just turn into a portable computer/interface device which we plug into with head­phones and screen read­er (or optic pipe, if we get to the point where we have a device that can shoot the images direct­ly into our eyes.) Kin­dle is a niche device which won’t last, since it ulti­mate­ly can’t com­pete with an iPhone. When folks leave their house, the iPhone is the most impor­tant gad­get they remem­ber to take, not the Kin­dle. (Generalization…there are folks who break that norm, but they would be excep­tions, not the rule).

  • Keith Peters says:

    Well, over this hol­i­day sea­son, Ama­zon reports sell­ing more Kin­dle books than “real” books. I think that with that, and with the B&N Nook sell­ing out and Sony with some­thing in the works, eBooks have actu­al­ly final­ly arrived.

    Say­ing the Kin­dle is the iPod of books is a flawed com­par­i­son when you try to take it to the lev­el you are tak­ing it to. Because a book is not a song, or an album. So when you take the anal­o­gy to the point of car­ry­ing around x num­ber of books vs. albums, you are just los­ing the point.

    The Kin­dle is the iPod of books in the sense that it has become the first ebook read­er to become a house­hold word. There were plen­ty of mp3 play­ers before the iPod, and were and still are plen­ty with a lot more fea­tures. But very few peo­ple, per­cent­age wise actu­al­ly owned one. The iPod rev­o­lu­tion­ized the scene by being THE mp3 play­er every­one sud­den­ly had. The Kin­dle is well on the way to doing the same thing in the world of books.

  • Seth Harwood says:

    Very inter­est­ing, Kei­th. I espe­cial­ly like your point about kin­dle being the first ebook read­er to be a house­hold word. For all its flaws, I won­der whether the kin­dle will wind up with that dom­i­nance as the iPod has. For my mon­ey (and hand-size) an Apple prod­uct still just feels bet­ter and works more intu­itive­ly for me.
    We’ll have to see what devel­ops if/when Apple releas­es its tablet, some­thing I guess every­one’s wait­ing for.

    I like the point about ama­zon sell­ing more ebooks than paper ones over Xmas, but if you step back it stands to rea­son: for every kin­dle giv­en, and there were a lot, that’ll lead direct­ly to x num­ber of ebooks pur­chased. So it works out. I’m not sure yet whether this’ll devel­op into any kind of larg­er trend. I will be watch­ing, how­ev­er!

    Thanks for shar­ing your thoughts. Great points!

    Seth

  • Richard Prince says:

    I think the list of 10 items is a lot pret­ty weak rea­son­ing. I think Kurt begins to get at many of the prob­lems with the “rea­sons.” Per­haps you are just try­ing to be fun­ny or provoca­tive… but still it is weak and seem­ing­ly unin­formed (Kin­dle too big for exam­ple).

    All of the cur­rent devices Kin­dle, Sony eRead­er, Nook, etc. are severe­ly lim­it­ed tech­nolo­gies — the first of their type and clear­ly will be seen as the Palm Pilot PDA or the MPMan and Rio MP3 play­ers. The major and dis­qual­i­fy­ing char­ac­ter­is­tic of the Kin­dle and why it won’t last, in its cur­rent ver­sion, is that has a Black and White mon­i­tor. But that’s just the begin­ning of its hard­ware and design flaws.

    The key to the Kin­dle or any oth­er eRead­er to come along is not the hard­ware and just like the iPhone, it is the dis­tri­b­u­tion infra­struc­ture of being able to deliv­er CONTENT eas­i­ly, effi­cient­ly, and by reduc­ing costs that far exceed the book. Books are NOT easy to get, they are high­ly phys­i­cal­ly cum­ber­some to get into the hands of read­ers and dif­fi­cult to dis­trib­ute, espe­cial­ly if you want some­thing more than just the best sell­ers and chart top­pers.

    Book buy­ers are con­stant­ly just guess­ing (and often poor­ly guess­ing) at what read­ers want and then begin this incred­i­bly expen­sive chan­nel­ing, rout­ing, ship­ping, stor­ing and inven­to­ry­ing books to very par­tic­u­lar mar­kets and read­ers. Not only is the book itself waste­ful of trees, that’s just the tiny begin­ning of the waste­ful­ness of books get­ting from the head of the writer into the hands and minds of the read­ers.

    And we have this over­ly roman­ti­cized notion of the book as a per­fect­ly ele­gant sen­su­al object we sit next the fire, the beach, the lake and read at our leisure. This is actu­al­ly a tiny per­cent­age of the nor­mal read­er expe­ri­ences AND it should nev­er go away. But this isn’t the “read­er expe­ri­ence” or inter­ac­tive expe­ri­ence most peo­ple have with books. Peo­ple read books for work, for school, for tech­ni­cal knowl­edge and instruc­tion and for far more rea­sons than the ONE and only often cit­ed as the idyl­lic rea­son books can’t go away.

    Giv­ing a stu­dent a eRead­er and the abil­i­ty to down­load all their books as they go away for col­lege is just as valid a rea­son for change as a glass of wine, sun­set and a leather bound book on the beach for NOT chang­ing. Aca­d­e­m­ic and col­lege text books are extreme­ly lim­it­ed and out­dat­ed because of their dis­tri­b­u­tion net­work. eRead­ers will sig­nif­i­cant­ly trans­form edu­ca­tion­al texts, make them sig­nif­i­cant­ly bet­ter and more up-to-date, and allow them world-wide dis­tri­b­u­tion by sim­ple down­load. And eRead­ers will do this at less cost.

    And for may uses, minus nov­els and fic­tion, books will become much more high­ly inter­ac­tive, mul­ti­me­dia and con­nect­ed to the inter­net. They will allow read­ers to mark up text, link text, and index their notes adding incred­i­ble val­ue that cur­rent­ly does­n’t exist with ink print­ed on paper.

    I don’t think there is any ques­tion that change is here now. The entire pub­lish­ing indus­try is being rad­i­cal­ly trans­formed and you can cry and be nos­tal­gic for some roman­ti­cized past but those who resist and the rea­sons they give sound like defend­ers of 8‑track tapes or Beta video tape for­mats.

  • Richard Prince says:

    I think the oth­er point I am in agree­ment with Kurt about is REACH. Peo­ple try to put this debate in terms of phys­i­cal object or paper vs. dig­i­tal or small vs. large form fac­tors. These things play a part but only a small part. The game that is being played out is dis­tri­b­u­tion and reach; mass mar­ket accep­tance and build­ing a crit­i­cal mass of con­tent (books, ref­er­ence, edu­ca­tion­al, peri­od­i­cals, enter­tain­ment, etc.) to draw peo­ple to this deliv­ery plat­form. Peo­ple will argue what was more impor­tant to the suc­cess of the iPod or the iPhone — the sen­su­al object­ness of the device or the iTunes and Apple App stores. I come down on the side of the reach of the dis­tri­b­u­tion net­work and stan­dard­iza­tion of for­mats.

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