Wonder Woman 1984 in Context — Pretty Much Pop: A Culture Podcast #76

The hol­i­day film release sea­son has now passed, hav­ing issued only one real block­buster, which is the return of Won­der Woman. This week’s Pret­ty Much Pop like­wise offers a return­ing hero:  Our col­lege-going guest from ep. 33 on hero­ine jour­neys has now grown into a grad stu­dent in comics his­to­ry, and she brings her deep WW knowl­edge to con­sid­er with your hosts Eri­ca Spyres, Mark Lin­sen­may­er, and Bri­an Hirt.

Part of the rel­e­vant con­text is the 2017 biopic Pro­fes­sor Marston and the Won­der Women, which revealed the unortho­dox views of WW’s cre­ator, and so of course this shows up in how WW judges us: She’s not just a Cap­tain Amer­i­ca-style patri­ot, but a for­eign­er who in the new film com­pas­sion­ate­ly con­demns our 80s greed and dis­hon­esty. But do the themes actu­al­ly make sense? And what’s with hav­ing her love inter­est return from the dead, hijack­ing anoth­er man’s body with no acknowl­edg­ment that that’s very skeevy?

Also, how does the depic­tion of WW’s home­land com­pare to oth­er fem­i­nist utopias like Her­land and “Sul­tana’s Dream”? Does it mat­ter that WW was cre­at­ed by and ini­tial­ly aimed pri­mar­i­ly at males? We learn a lit­tle about the post-Marston WW (who could­n’t join the Jus­tice League, which was for boys only!) and talk about the ’70s TV show, the out­fits, the vil­lains, and WW in love.

Here are a few sup­ple­men­tary arti­cles:

• “The Sur­pris­ing Ori­gin Sto­ry of Won­der Woman” by Jill Lep­ore
• “Does Won­der Woman 1984 Have a Steve Trevor Prob­lem?” by Sarah El-Mah­moud
• “The Warped Moral­i­ty of ‘Won­der Woman 1984’ ” by Dani Di Placido
• “How Won­der Woman 1984 Reboots the DC Hero’s For­got­ten Super­pow­er” by Eric Fran­cis­co
• “How ‘Won­der Woman 1984’ Vil­lain Maxwell Lord Stays True to the Comics” by Graeme McMil­lan
• And from our for­mer guest, Noah Berlatsky: “HBO Max’s ‘Won­der Woman 1984’ Stars a Trump‑y Vil­lain, Gal Gadot’s Charm and a Gar­bled Mes­sage”

Hear more of this pod­cast at prettymuchpop.com. This episode includes bonus dis­cus­sion you can access by sup­port­ing the pod­cast at patreon.com/prettymuchpop. This pod­cast is part of the Par­tial­ly Exam­ined Life pod­cast net­work.

Pret­ty Much Pop: A Cul­ture Pod­cast is the first pod­cast curat­ed by Open Cul­ture. Browse all Pret­ty Much Pop posts.