Miss USA 2011: Should Schools Teach Evolution? … or Math?

“Should evolution be taught in schools?” That was the question actually put to participants in the Miss USA pageant held this past June.

In response, MacKenzie Fegan and her friends had some fun with the whole line of thinking, shooting their own mock video in reply. Enjoy, and do know that we heart Miss Vermont…

via BoingBoing

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  • Manny says:

    You don’t believe in math???? You mean you don’t believe 1+1=2?? I thought this was an SNL skit! LMFAO!!!

  • Manny says:

    Never mind, I commented BEFORE I saw this IS a skit. But, I don’t doubt that some of the real Miss America contestants think this this way as well, judging by the answers they gave on there subject regarding the teaching of evolution. For Pete’s sake, Miss Alabama said she doesn’t think it should be taught just because SHE doesn’t believe in it. (??)

  • brooke says:

    I laughed out loud…until I watched the actual Miss USA competition and I wept. Good grief…

  • Nick says:

    Good grief! 1 out of 50 got the answer correct. Vermont paraphrased: “Yes. It’s real. Scientific facts are important! Why not learn it?” Are there actually schools that don’t teach it? Wouldn’t that leave students taking Biology classes a bit confused if they didn’t at least bring it up? WTF America!

  • Brian says:

    They are not even the same girls in the two videos. You claim they are the same batch of people but they are not. Shame on you for trying to make a point with faked videos.

  • NotBrian says:

    Brian: who claims that? Shame on you for not paying attention. The video is hilarious and an obvious parody.

    Sometimes I think the Chinese have been putting lead in all the drinking water.

  • Brian says:

    Read the tops of the two videos. Both videos state the women are miss USA. If you don’t think that is a statement you should stop drinking your Chinese water.
    They are funny but I chose not to base the math argument on an obvious parody.

  • Daniel Longmore says:

    I find it interesting that others have used math to show the flaws in evolution. Check out this website (http://www.ukapologetics.net/08/evolutionandmath.htm)

  • Captain Americus says:

    Ms. USA has always been an airhead competition where contestants try not to say anything that might offend anyone in order to win. Other than mocking them, which has been going on for decades, there’s not much to say.

  • NotDaniel says:

    @Daniel: I find it “interesting” that that others have misused math, as in your example, to try to confuse people about evolution.

    Anyone curious about one a more reasoned discussion of the relationship of probability to evolution can see here http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/abioprob/abioprob.html

  • NotCaptain says:

    Captain: the very idea that rejecting evolution is the inoffensive position is the whole problem. Understanding of science in America is at an all time post-WWII low and getting worse all the time.

  • Gaf says:

    Yes, Daniel, and somebody used math to prove the existence of God on youtube, too. Check it out. You won’t understand it (nor did the idiot who made the video), which, to people who believe in God, constitutes proof. On a side note, evolution is not a “belief.” It is a scientific principle that, for about 150 years has been fundamental to the biological sciences. It has been demonstrated time and again by the fossil record, and it has been recreated in actual real life in the lab with micro-organisms that reproduce very rapidly, so odds has nothing to do with it. What were the odds that a redneck, racist culture that doesn’t understand a basic scientific principle would elect a man whom most of them would assume is inferior based on a popular misrepresentation of Darwinism that anti-evolutionists ironically have taken as proof that white people are better than everyone else? They also don’t understand enough genetics to know that homo-sapiens are only about 5% better than chimpanzees. I looked at that website, and I thought maybe I could make up some numbers just as easily. The chances that Daniel has a college degree or has read anything other than poorly constructed fear-mongering cult propaganda in the past several years is 1 in 1024. What are the odds that an invisible magic man that nobody can really see created the world? I don’t care; it’s absurd and unprovable and therefore probably BS.

  • Cynthia Nelms-Byrne says:

    Yes Gaf – you said everything I’d like to say, only better. The way the real Miss America candidates kept talking about evolution being a “belief” just drove me crazy. Although I think perhaps if a course on the religions of the world were taught, these non-critical thinkers could see that there are many, many theories of how mankind began, all of them unscientific and pretty strange.

  • Jacob k says:

    The thing I find the most disturbing is the misinterpretation of the word theory. There is no such thing as proving something right in science only disproving what we expect. A well tested theory is as close to truth as we can get in science there is no other side to the story. However in response to some of the more rude comments since science can only be disproven there is no reason to use the fact that it is possible to test it as opposed to religion which has to be taken on faith be a reason to insult others. Technically newton was wrong or we wouldn’t need Einstein or quantum mechanics yet I would never insult his or any other belief system or well founded theories.

  • Jacob k says:

    PS: I teach high school science.

  • Stacy says:

    Isaac Asimov summed it up pretty well:

    “Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that ‘my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.’”

  • Jeff says:

    Gravity’s just a theory too…

    …maybe schools should be throwing the anklebiters off buildings to let them make up their own minds on the subject?

    Science flies mankind to the stars – Religion flies them into buildings.

  • cl says:

    Jeff, that last line was fantastic!
    But I have to say, it seems that Newton was correct until you reach the speed of light then Einstein’s theory takes over.

  • Choadee says:

    Who cares what they say,I just like to watch the shiny lips move.

  • John Egbert says:

    It’s funny, because real Miss Alaska said that she believes God put her on this earth for a reason- I presume that reason wasn’t as insignificant as modeling, right? Pageant shows really aren’t too important, probably not something an omniscient, omnipresent deity should care about.

  • Kathleen Vanni says:

    I thought the satire about whether or not Evolution should be taught in school “Should Math be Taught in School”, pretty well sums it up. It seems like many of these women don’t understand the difference between scientifically based knowledge and a religiously based belief system, with no supporting data.

    I also noticed the regional differences between the women’s answers, some of which I believe is based on their actual beliefs as a result of their educational and cultural background and some of which may be based on not wanting to offend people based on the widely held beliefs of the culture they are from, no matter what they personally believe. Of course this is based on too little evidence to support this belief or even call it a valid theory.

    It does appear that many of these women don’t have any even slightly in depth knowledge about Evolution or even rationally based thought. I was educated in California, way back when, being a senior citizen and we learned about Evolution in school and there didn’t appear to be much controversy about teaching it in school. This is the USA and there is supposed to be separation of Church and State, so I don’t think that teaching religiously based theories in a science class would be appropriate. That would be more appropriately taught in a class on comparative religions or different cultural beliefs or perhaps some kind of history course explaining what most of human kind believed about ourselves and our origins in earlier times. If people choose to ignore the science in favor of taking the Bible or other religious manuscripts literally, that is their right to do so, but the Bible shouldn’t be taught as science and people who don’t accept Evolution shouldn’t be allowed to censor this data from our public schools.

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