Glenn Gould Explains Why Mozart Was a Bad Composer in a Controversial Public TV Show (1968)

No matter how eccentric Glenn Gould’s interpretations of major composers might have been, his friend and promoter Leonard Bernstein found them worthy of performance, even if he didn’t quite agree. In “The Truth About a Legend,” his tribute essay to Gould after the pianist’s death, Bernstein wrote, “Any discovery of Glenn’s was welcomed by me because I worshipped the way he played: I admired his intellectual approach, his ‘guts’ approach.”

Are these contradictions? Glenn Gould was a complicated man, a brilliantly abstract thinker who threw his full physical being into his playing. When Gould slowed a Brahms concerto to a crawl, so slow that “it was very tiring” for the orchestra to play, he was convinced he had discovered a secret key to the tempo within the piece itself. Bernstein had profound doubts, tried several times to dissuade Gould, and warned the orchestra, “Now don’t give up, because this is a great man, whom we have to take very seriously.”

Not all of Gould’s admirers were as tolerant of Gould’s unorthodox views. In 1968, Gould presented a segment of the weekly public television series Public Broadcast Library. His topic was “How Mozart Became a Bad Composer.” This was, perhaps suffice to say, a very unpopular opinion. “The program outraged viewers in both the United States and Canada, including formerly sympathetic fans and critics,” Kevin Bazzana writes in Wondrous Strange: The Life and Art of Glenn Gould. It would never again air anywhere and was only recently digitized from 2-inch tape found in the Library of Congress National Audio-Visual Conservation Center.

Gould opens the show with a selection from Mozart’s Piano Concerto in C Minor, then in his critical commentary, alleges the piece “has had a rather better press than it deserves, I think. Despite it’s gently swooning melodies, its meticulously balanced cadences, despite its stable and architecturally unexceptionable form, I’m going to submit it as a good example of why I think Mozart, especially in his later years, was not a very good composer.” Then Gould really digs in, casually comparing Mozart’s “dependable” craftsmanship to “the way that an accounts executive dispatches an interoffice memo.”

It is a shocking thing to say, and Gould, of course, knows it. Is this hubris, or is he deliberately provoking his audience? “Glenn had strong elements of sportsmanship and teasing,” Bernstein writes, “the kind of daring which accounts for his freshness.” His contrariness might have inspired at least a few viewers to listen critically and carefully to Mozart for the first time, without hundreds of years of received opinion mediating the experience. This is the spirit in which we should view Gould’s erudite iconoclasm, says Library of Congress Music Reference Specialist James Wintle: to learn to listen with new ears, “as a child,” to a composer we have “been conditioned to revere.”

Gould’s unpopular opinions “did not always take a turn toward the negative,” Wintle writes. He championed the works of less-than-popular composers like Paul Hindemith and Jean Sibelius. And his “great sense of inquiry,” Bernstein wrote, “made him suddenly understand Schoenberg and Liszt in the same category, or Purcell and Brahms, or Orlando Gibbons and Petula Clark. He would suddenly bring an unlikely pair of musicians together in some kind of startling comparative essay.” Gould’s musical inventiveness, taste, and judgment were unparalleled, Bernstein maintained, and for that reason, we should always be inclined to hear him out.

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Josh Jones is a writer and musician based in Durham, NC. Follow him at @jdmagness

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  • Dionysos says:

    The two most famous music scammers reunited

  • Francis says:

    Stop using click-bait. He never said ‘WAS a bad composer’. He says ‘became’, and makes some good points to make us think. I personally am not a fan of the later sonatas as well, but the C minor concerto is pure gem. We need artists and thinkers who do more than simply deify the big composers/creators.

  • Bill says:

    Great insight @ 19:00 to 21:00 about his definition of great composition including : “
    Sacrifice immediate appeal to support long range projection
    Psychology of denial
    Inventor at odds with museum curator
    Get free of curators control “

  • Moein says:

    🎶 Crazy Peoples like Gould or Prokofiev couldn’t see the great artists who lived at least two hundred years ago ! (Great artists whose popularity is increasing every day !) Specifically about Mozart & Beethoven (Gods of Music) . That’s why they tried to show themselves in the media with these words . Because they couldn’t do anything else . It’s better to remove the names of people like Gould from history. Of course, I think this is happening naturally ! Art doesn’t need charlatans 👎

  • Moein says:

    I completely disagree 👎 . The closer Mozart got to the end of his life, He made purer music . Gould just said something stupid . Don’t take it serious ! The Canadian artist doesn’t get better than this . Mozart was truly the god of music .

  • Enno barstadi says:

    Gould was probably amongst the 100 most interesting pianists of the last century, but certainly not among the 10 best. His opinions aren’t honestly worth serious consideration – the late Mozart concertos have long been recognised as right up there amongst the most perfect musical works of the millennium. Ok Glenn, you couldn’t play them very well, but doesn’t make them bad pieces!

  • Moein says:

    👍 I quite agree Enno barstadi 👍

  • Daniel says:

    Not at all.

  • Daniel says:

    I disagrre with you. You can learn much from Gould.

  • Daniel says:

    Not “Scammers” at all. Just the opposite.

  • Daniel says:

    @Enno I don’t know why you have to “Rank” Pianists. There were
    so many, each Great in his/her way. I don’t think many would dispute
    Gould’s first Goldberg Variation Recording was the greatest, or one of the greatest.

  • Spencer Hill says:

    This is dumb cause like who even cares right? also my favwite musical man is DaBaby

  • Sal D'Agostino says:

    Gould didn’t suddenly “understand” Petula Clark. He wrote an entire essay about how she was in fact “better” than the Beatles. And she never wrote a song. He simply despised the Beatles and tapped Petula Clark to make the ridiculous “comparison”.

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